laurentio
23rd July 2008, 08:45 PM
I have always believed that Bullguard is a decent developer. Until today when...but I won't tell you what happened. Just spend a few minutes, read the following online chat we had with one of their supervisors not long ago...See the screenshots too, which were taken as a proof, just in case Bullguard decides to deny the whole story.
Bullguard online chat (https://ba-twin1-1.bullguard.com/webchat/startchatanonymous.aspx?loc=support&language=en)
[Elmira]: Hello, welcome to BullGuard Live Support! How may I help you?
[liz]: hi there
[liz]: I have a problem with my AV
[liz]: I cannot scan my computer while it is offline and each time I type the username and the pass it won’t start
[Elmira]: I'm afraid that without an active internet connection, the login process cannot pe performed and therefore you do not have access to the BullGuard application
[liz]: what a joke
[liz]: and if the virus I have doesn't let me access the internet?
[liz]: how am I supposed to remove it??
[liz]: I was considering buying this bullguard..Thank God I didn't
[Elmira]: Is there anything else I can help you with?
[liz]: is this all you can say?
[liz]: what a joke.
[liz]: I have a username and a password
[liz]: I want to remove the virus that doesn't let me access the internet
[liz]: help me
[liz]: this is the problem I am asking you to help me with
[Elmira]: Please note that the Bullguard login window has a "login automatically" option. This option should be enabled while you have an internet connection, so that you are not asked for a username and password even when you go offline
[Elmira]: However, since this option has not been checkmarked, you will not be able to log in without an active internet connection
[liz]: this is a joke isn't it?
[liz]: honest now
[liz]: are you kidding me?
[Elmira]: No, this is not a joke.
[Elmira]: Please let me know whether liz****@googlemail.com is your valid e-mail address so that I can send you a diagnosis tool on the computer where the problem occurs
[liz]: yes
[liz]: that's the one
[liz]: presuming that I would have bought over 150 licenses for the whole business...the server side as well...wouldn't I be f...d without the possibility of scanning and removing the threats?
[liz]: having the whole business offline??
[liz]: this must be a joke
[Elmira]: Ok. The e-mail will be sent in a few moments. Once you receive the tool, please transfer it to the computer that has no internet connection, using a floppy or a flash drive
[Elmira]: Then run it as indicated in the e-mail
[liz]: how am I supposed to sort this problem out?
[liz]: elmira, I would like to talk to a supervisor or a manger as the situation is getting ridiculous
[Elmira]: The e-mail has been sent
[Elmira]: I am the supervisor of this shift.
[liz]: then let's find a solution please
[Elmira]: Please understand that without an active internet connection, BullGuard cannot authenticate your login details
[Elmira]: Without an authentication of the login details, access to the BullGuard application is not possible. I'm afraid this is how the software was designed
[Elmira]: For the time being, I have sent you a diagnosis tool which will provide us with more details regarding the malware that might reside in your system
[liz]: the software you've sent me. What is it supposed to do?
[Elmira]: Based on its results we will get back to you with a solution
[liz]: I still have not received it yet anyway
[Elmira]: The application is a diagnosis tool, as specified above. It offers details regarding startup entries, browser helper objects, running processes etc
[Elmira]: This will help us determine whether any malicious entries are present
[liz]: why don't you send it here? As I can see this window should let you send it here
[Elmira]: If you have not received the e-mail, please download the application from this link instead:
[Elmira]: http://www.bullguard.com/support/tech-guides/how-to-use-hijackthis.aspx
[Elmira]: Download the utility called HIJACKTHIS on your desktop.
- Transfer the file to the computer that has no access to the internet connection.
-Right click the zipped file and select the option EXTRACT HERE.
-A new file will appear called Hijackthis.exe.
-Double click the hijackthis.exe file and click on DO A SYSTEM SCAN AND SAVE LOG FILE.
- Transfer the log file to a computer that has an active internet connection.
-Send the resulted log file to support@bullguard.com for ****ysis.
[liz]: I cannot believe you are sending me
[liz]: to download and scan my pc with a tool developed by your competition
[liz]: trend micro
[liz]: Jesus...
[liz]: is this bullguard that bad as they have to rely on other vendors?
[Elmira]: The tool is a diagnosis tool, not an antivirus software. It is being used by all security support departments for diagnosis
[Elmira]: If you visit security forums you will notice that this tool is being used everywhere.
[liz]: yes. But it was developed by your competition! How can you make your customers use other vendor’s tools?
[liz]: what does that mean? That you are a bunch of incapable...
[Elmira]: If you are not satisfied with the Bullguard softare, please feel free to use another security product.
[Elmira]: Also, if you are unwilling to cooperate I'm afraid I am going to have to end this conversation
[liz]: be sure that I am going to use a different product and also let others know what this so called antivirus is good for....good bye.
Bullguard online chat (https://ba-twin1-1.bullguard.com/webchat/startchatanonymous.aspx?loc=support&language=en)
[Elmira]: Hello, welcome to BullGuard Live Support! How may I help you?
[liz]: hi there
[liz]: I have a problem with my AV
[liz]: I cannot scan my computer while it is offline and each time I type the username and the pass it won’t start
[Elmira]: I'm afraid that without an active internet connection, the login process cannot pe performed and therefore you do not have access to the BullGuard application
[liz]: what a joke
[liz]: and if the virus I have doesn't let me access the internet?
[liz]: how am I supposed to remove it??
[liz]: I was considering buying this bullguard..Thank God I didn't
[Elmira]: Is there anything else I can help you with?
[liz]: is this all you can say?
[liz]: what a joke.
[liz]: I have a username and a password
[liz]: I want to remove the virus that doesn't let me access the internet
[liz]: help me
[liz]: this is the problem I am asking you to help me with
[Elmira]: Please note that the Bullguard login window has a "login automatically" option. This option should be enabled while you have an internet connection, so that you are not asked for a username and password even when you go offline
[Elmira]: However, since this option has not been checkmarked, you will not be able to log in without an active internet connection
[liz]: this is a joke isn't it?
[liz]: honest now
[liz]: are you kidding me?
[Elmira]: No, this is not a joke.
[Elmira]: Please let me know whether liz****@googlemail.com is your valid e-mail address so that I can send you a diagnosis tool on the computer where the problem occurs
[liz]: yes
[liz]: that's the one
[liz]: presuming that I would have bought over 150 licenses for the whole business...the server side as well...wouldn't I be f...d without the possibility of scanning and removing the threats?
[liz]: having the whole business offline??
[liz]: this must be a joke
[Elmira]: Ok. The e-mail will be sent in a few moments. Once you receive the tool, please transfer it to the computer that has no internet connection, using a floppy or a flash drive
[Elmira]: Then run it as indicated in the e-mail
[liz]: how am I supposed to sort this problem out?
[liz]: elmira, I would like to talk to a supervisor or a manger as the situation is getting ridiculous
[Elmira]: The e-mail has been sent
[Elmira]: I am the supervisor of this shift.
[liz]: then let's find a solution please
[Elmira]: Please understand that without an active internet connection, BullGuard cannot authenticate your login details
[Elmira]: Without an authentication of the login details, access to the BullGuard application is not possible. I'm afraid this is how the software was designed
[Elmira]: For the time being, I have sent you a diagnosis tool which will provide us with more details regarding the malware that might reside in your system
[liz]: the software you've sent me. What is it supposed to do?
[Elmira]: Based on its results we will get back to you with a solution
[liz]: I still have not received it yet anyway
[Elmira]: The application is a diagnosis tool, as specified above. It offers details regarding startup entries, browser helper objects, running processes etc
[Elmira]: This will help us determine whether any malicious entries are present
[liz]: why don't you send it here? As I can see this window should let you send it here
[Elmira]: If you have not received the e-mail, please download the application from this link instead:
[Elmira]: http://www.bullguard.com/support/tech-guides/how-to-use-hijackthis.aspx
[Elmira]: Download the utility called HIJACKTHIS on your desktop.
- Transfer the file to the computer that has no access to the internet connection.
-Right click the zipped file and select the option EXTRACT HERE.
-A new file will appear called Hijackthis.exe.
-Double click the hijackthis.exe file and click on DO A SYSTEM SCAN AND SAVE LOG FILE.
- Transfer the log file to a computer that has an active internet connection.
-Send the resulted log file to support@bullguard.com for ****ysis.
[liz]: I cannot believe you are sending me
[liz]: to download and scan my pc with a tool developed by your competition
[liz]: trend micro
[liz]: Jesus...
[liz]: is this bullguard that bad as they have to rely on other vendors?
[Elmira]: The tool is a diagnosis tool, not an antivirus software. It is being used by all security support departments for diagnosis
[Elmira]: If you visit security forums you will notice that this tool is being used everywhere.
[liz]: yes. But it was developed by your competition! How can you make your customers use other vendor’s tools?
[liz]: what does that mean? That you are a bunch of incapable...
[Elmira]: If you are not satisfied with the Bullguard softare, please feel free to use another security product.
[Elmira]: Also, if you are unwilling to cooperate I'm afraid I am going to have to end this conversation
[liz]: be sure that I am going to use a different product and also let others know what this so called antivirus is good for....good bye.